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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Harsh drug laws fuel prostitution Reply with quote

For those who've been following the dreadful events in Suffolk (5 women murdered in just 10 days) you may be aware that there is new discussion about how drugs can pull people into a life of prostitution, and that perhaps we should be looking at new ways of coping with drug use.

I think the government needs to seriously overhaul drug laws and spend more resources on helping people cope with their habits, if they can not successfully quit. It's unfortunate enough to be a drug addict without also finding yourself living on society's fringes as a prostitute or house burglar. Shouldn't we be finding ways of helping addicts live as normal lives as possible?

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Deaths from dark causes

Placing blame on circumstances can verge on an evasion of human guilt. It must be remembered that official policy, on its own, was not the cause of the horrific abduction and killing this month of five women in Ipswich; the poisoned mind of whoever carried out the attacks was directly responsible. But it is already clear that two different prohibitions shaped the environment in which the women died and so must be at the centre of consideration of how other such deaths can be prevented. Prostitution and hard drug use are both at least partly outside the law and both much more common, and destructive, than society chooses to admit.

What happened in Ipswich could have happened in any town and, in less dramatic ways, does happen, quite often. Every town has its hard drug users and every town has its sex workers. It has taken the horror of the Ipswich deaths to remind people of it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/leaders/story/0,,1971511,00.html


And written by an actual drug user and prostitute:


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This is no life for anyone

For women like me, prostitution is about a lot more than drugs, and getting out isn't easy

I've been selling sex since I was 18 and I'm 41 now. I ran away from home when I was 14 because I was terrified my mum was going to put me in care, and ended up living with fairground people for three years. Like so many girls in my situation, I drifted to London. Having no skills, I ended up working in a hostess bar, then moved down the prostitution food chain and worked for an escort agency.

By the time I was in my early 20s, I was working on the streets - and have worked there ever since. I didn'tstart using heroin straight away, but I fell in with a bad crowd and they introduced me to it. Later, when crack exploded on to the scene, I began using that too.
Crack has brought about a completely different way of working on the streets. Most of the girls I know don't use more than �20 of heroin a day, but they can use up to �200 of crack in 24-hours. Funding a heroin habit is manageable, but with crack the craving is so strong there's no limit on what you can smoke. So girls need to do a lot of punters to pay for their drugs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1971476,00.html

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SPINOZA



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CRUSH PROHIBITION! Prohibition is by far the largest cause of crime. Worldwide, annual drug profits are in excess of 400 billion dollars. This is 80 percent of total criminal turnover.

CRUSH PROHIBITION! public safety is endangered by armed gangs fighting over turf. In western cities, 80 percent of petty crime is related to drugs.

CRUSH! KILL! DESTROY PROHIBITION! Massive amounts of tax-payers' money are wasted fighting the crime that prohibition itself creates. In the United States, 15 billion dollars are fed into the federal drug control budget annually, and the total costs of property damage, police work and incarceration are a multiple of this amount.

SMASH PROHIBITION! Prohibition causes social and personal harm on a worldwide scale. Illegality, combined with addiction and sky-high black market prices, guarantees criminality and social decay.

BURN PROHIBITION! Prohibition doesn't have any of its intended effects. Crime rates soar, the number of drug users increases, and the health problem is made worse. Mmany police commissioners now are in favour of controlled provision of heroin by the state.

FLUSH PROHIBITION DOWN THE PAN! Moral standards are declining because of prohibition. Drug use and possession places ordinary people outside the law, which may cause disrespect for the rules and moral standards society wants to set. In Western societies, 80 percent of all crime is related to prohibition. If we are really concerned about morality, we must first remove the cause of all this crime - prohibition.

GIVE PROHIBITION A MISS! The 'drug scourge' is a hoax. The actual health problem which prohibition is supposed to solve is minor in comparison to other health problems. Mind you, I do not propose banning smoking and alcohol. Banning cigarettes would quadruple their existing cost on the black market.

Prohibition? Just say no. Kick the habit.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP)
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jmbran11



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the last guy. Drug policies drive a lot crime upwards, not just prostitution. After all, there were plenty of hookers before crack. It's easy, quick money. I mean easy because it doesn't require a degree or references, not because it wouldn't be difficult.

In the U.S. the "war on drugs" has warped an entire generation and created a whole culture of street crime and an industrial prison system. Personally, I'd rather see it decriminalized and treated. But, people have been so conditioned that drugs are evil and perpetrator should be punished, despite all evidence that we have utterly failed to even slow down the rate of drug use and all the innocent people who have been caught in the crossfire.
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come now. A murderer is targeting prostitutes, and the villain for causing all this is drugs? Nice priorities, guys. How about trying to help the women who are falling into prostitution? How about trying to make their work safer? How about trying to catch the guy, Sherlocks?

Drugs cause problems, yes. But it's ridiculous to say that jailing a dorm student with a spliff is somehow connected with stopping Jack the Ripper II. For even these cheesy tabloids it's poor journalism.

Ken:>
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Americans ought to know well that prohibition fails.

Legalise it, control and tax it.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
Come now. A murderer is targeting prostitutes, and the villain for causing all this is drugs? Nice priorities, guys. How about trying to help the women who are falling into prostitution? How about trying to make their work safer? How about trying to catch the guy, Sherlocks?



How about brushing up on your reading comprehension?

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It must be remembered that official policy, on its own, was not the cause of the horrific abduction and killing this month of five women in Ipswich; the poisoned mind of whoever carried out the attacks was directly responsible.


The OP is not about a murderer. The murder of 5 prostitutes is just the event that has focussed debate on prostitutes - and the reasons those young and attractive women became prostitutes. Sigh.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmbran11 wrote:
I agree with the last guy. Drug policies drive a lot crime upwards, not just prostitution. After all, there were plenty of hookers before crack.


Where did I say that

a) Only prostitution is caused by drug policies.
and that
b) Prostitution is only caused by drug policies.

Question

I also very much agree with the 'last guy.'
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about brushing up on your reading comprehension?

How about reading the headline?

Deaths from dark causes

The text of the article and the tone of the writing clearly tries to draw a connection between drugs and the murders, suggesting the two are linked as cause and effect. If this were not so, why doesn't the headline say 'dark cause' in singular and focus on the murderer? And why is the article only coming out now?

Ken:>
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
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How about brushing up on your reading comprehension?

How about reading the headline?

Deaths from dark causes

The text of the article and the tone of the writing clearly tries to draw a connection between drugs and the murders, suggesting the two are linked as cause and effect. If this were not so, why doesn't the headline say 'dark cause' in singular and focus on the murderer? And why is the article only coming out now?

Ken:>


You could argue that their deaths were partly related to their addiction to drugs and their desperate need to finance it, because that's why (it's argued) they seem to have turned to prostitution in the first place, and that's why they put themselves at daily risk of being hurt or, in this case, killed. So drugs are a very relevant contributory cause to the way they met their end.

Why is the article coming out now? Because these events have focussed the public's attention on the plight of prostitutes, and so the author sees a usefu