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stellar2000 · Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 9 Location: shanghai

why there is no one talking about the event of EU Constitution. it is the biggest news attracting global concern currently.
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asterix · Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654

EU ist fertig! Kaput! vollendet! There will be no EU in ten years.

asterix · Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654

There are already many Turks in Germany. They are doing the jobs the Gerrmans don't want to do.
I don't know how Turkey's admission to the EU will affect the EC because I have not been very interested in it.
I would be interested to hear your opinion.

Flyaway · Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 37

It's just a dream!People forgot where were they from in EU?It a mission impossible! Sad

stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

i also don't know much about turkey as an EU candidate but i think there might be a problem because turkey is an islamistic country and all the current states of EU aren't so this can emerge as a problem.
and another cause for not putting turkey in the EU is because in turkey they still use death penalty and torture like in no (?) other EU state.

but there are also many turks who have a really good job in germany - and besides, they wouldn't be here if they could have a better life and job than in turkey, would they?
so at one side the germans should appreciate more what the foreigners do for the country - on the other hand, the turks have many rights in germany they don't have in turkey so they should also behave adequate.

hm, my opinion is that especially the turks (living in germany) should contain themselves from being too arrogant because it's still germany and not the islamistic turkey so they should be thankful that the germans let them have their own religion and notions. turks should notice that they can't behave in germany (or in any other country except their own) as if they were in turkey.

that's what i wanted to say, i hope you could understand my thoughts! Very Happy

greets

(ps: i only used germany as an example because asterix used it already before)
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element105 · Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 518 Location: Tsingtao,China

globalization is irresistible,adapt it or die out

nizeng · Joined: 11 Apr 2003 Posts: 25

EU is not fertig

Why should we say that just because of two failed referendums in France and Holland? Anyway EU has more than 20 members.

And I don't really think the reason why French people said non was the EU consitution itself. It's rather the disblief of French people on their own government that failed the referendum. As for Holland, you just can't ignore the French impact if you consider the date the people in Holland voted.

However it's true that Europe has stepped into a very dangerous phrase. After the EU consitution was not ratified in France and Netherand people could smell a really unsatisfying feeling within the Union. Now the unity of Europe is in danger, Germany, France and England as "EU-Troika" really have to do stop quarrelling and do something, before it's too late.

mkg1211 · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Cairo,Egypt

i was shocked after reading this

mkg1211 · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Cairo,Egypt

i think the holands refused as they didn't support the articles concerning immigrants, and the left parties which is automatically stand against such matter (it is just what i am thinking)

stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

hey, come down please!

i'd really appreciate if you'd read my whole opinion and try to understand it before critizising what i didn't say!

i mean, in which of my sentences did you interprete something like this:

ablesch · Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 8

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stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

thank you, but i know what the european union is.
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asterix · Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1654

is freedom to have YOUR opinions ??????????
Yes, it is. What does freedom mean where you live?
Anyone in the west can have whatever religion he wants, or no religion at all.
That's the problem with Islam. There is no tolerance for people who don't believe in it, and no tolerance for muslims who wish to change their religion.

ablesch · Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 8

So, tell us what it is then?

stellara · Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 583 Location: germany

thank you, admiral!

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i'm not counting all the points that are making the European Union because then i'd be here by tomorrow with writing them down!
besides, i didn't think that was in any way a topic here, it was originally about the EU constitution not about it itself.

sorry Wink

i'm trying not to write a novel Laughing

but sometimes i wanna say so much.. i'd try to make many paragraphes so it would be easier to read through.
greets
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