Site Search:
 
Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums Forum Index Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

I have lots of problems with listening.

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Learning English
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Simon_23



Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 9
Location: Poland

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: I have lots of problems with listening. Reply with quote

Hey!

My name is Simon, I'm 23, I'm from Poland and I'm very glad to be here. I have been learning English for about 8 months. I learn 2, 3 hours a day and I do my best. I listen to English, do a lot of grammar exercises and I would like to use perfectly this language and the most of all I want to speak fluently. However I have a problem. I listen to some tapes, BBC and even I have got an e-book Harry Potter - Chamber of Secrets (AudioBook + Scripts) and I listen, listen and listen and I can't understand what people say. It gets me upset, really. Now I start using a new method. Firstly I read some text and afterwards I listen to the text and later on I repeat as speed as a narrator. That is still too little. I can't hear words: have, has, he's read for example, or that and so on".
Sometimes I know each word in a sentence but I can't understand the sense of the sentence. I have made up my mind and now I use monolingual dictionary such as freesearch.co.uk/dictionary or cambridge or tfd.com. It will take much time to notice some results of this method.

May be I want to listen to English and understand English too hurriedly and I'm too hasty and restless. Can you help me?


Simon
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
Bob S.



Joined: 29 Apr 2004
Posts: 1767
Location: So. Cal

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon_23 wrote:
I have been learning English for about 8 months. I learn 2, 3 hours a day and I do my best. ...I listen to some tapes, BBC and even I have got an e-book Harry Potter - Chamber of Secrets (AudioBook + Scripts) and I listen, listen and listen ...Now I start using a new method. Firstly I read some text and afterwards I listen to the text and later on I repeat as speed as a narrator. ...
May be I want to listen to English and understand English too hurriedly and I'm too hasty and restless. Can you help me?

In my opinion, it sounds like you were on the right track. Reading and listening at the same time is generally a good method for training your ear to catch the words and understand them. It does take time to develop the skill, so be patient. The method steps that seem to work best are:
1. Read the script in English first. How much can you understand?
2. Read again while listening to the tape/CD. Do this just once.
3. Read a translation in your native language. Now you can comprehend it.
4. Re-read the English script. How much more can you understand? Re-read with a dictionary if necessary.
5. Read the script again while listening to the tape. Repeat.
6. Listen only. Can you catch the English? You don't have to catch every article or helping verb. Enough to understand the key words is sufficient.
7. Repeat 5 and 6 as necessary till you are comfortable with listening only.

The next day, move on to the next lesson. Repeat this lesson again later to see how much you remember. Keep at this at least several times each week.
If it starts to seem too boring, you can do the same lesson with DVDs of your favorite movies in English. Watch the DVD with your native language option turned on first. Then watch it again in English with your language subtitles. Then watch it in English with English subtitles. Finally, only in English.

If you continue to have a lot of trouble, you may want to skip the BBC and instead start with something with a North American accent. British English is actually spoken a bit faster than North American English. Switch to British English later when you are more comfortable.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bud



Joined: 09 Mar 2003
Posts: 2111
Location: New Jersey, US

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon, you've come a very long way in a very short time, as your written English is excellent. I have the same problem with Spanish. I can speak it, read it and write it at an intermediate level, but my listening skill is bad, bad, bad. Hang in there!

Listen to Bob's advice. It's good. Another thing you might try from time to time is idle listening. Just turn on the radio or whatever, and listen but avoid trying to understand what is being said. The point is that you are just getting used to hearing the sounds of English, the phrasing, the intonation, etc.

A friend of mine lived in Paris for a time. She had the same problem with French. She swears that one day she had TV on, a weather forecast, and when it was finished, it occurred to her that she understood what was said. Just like that.

Now if I would only get serious about learning to understand spoken Spanish!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Simon_23



Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 9
Location: Poland

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will comply with your instructions and advices.
Thanks a lot.

--
Simon
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
freeboy



Joined: 26 Jul 2005
Posts: 6
Location: Kaohsiung,Taiwan

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Good opion... Reply with quote

I'm Chinese.
I also wanna learn English well.
I agree all the method of artical.
But It's really need lots time.
I am curious that when you were young,
learn your native English language,was it
really take so much time to practice listening?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
cgage



Joined: 19 Jun 2004
Posts: 66
Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dzien dobry! I suggest that you get some DVD's that have English speaking with Polish subtitles. If that is not possible, get a copy in Polish and a copy in English and try to learn most of the dialogue in Polish. Then listen to the English version many times. I speak French, some Italian and I'm learning Spanish. I find that this is a very good method. Also, I listen to tapes in my car. Learning a language requires several different approaches. The one that I have described is ear training. I'm an ESL teacher in the US. Feel free to email if you have any questions. I enjoy helping people from different countries learn English.
My email is [email protected]
Dziekuje
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Simon_23



Joined: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 9
Location: Poland

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm very grateful, cgage. I will note your email down.
Are you any roots here in Poland?





Best wishes,
Simon
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
amahmood



Joined: 26 May 2005
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Watch subscribed movies.

watch a movie and try to undrestand it without the subscription - preferebly use a headphone - then watch it again and again. You are done when you can say what the actor said without looking at the subscribe. Remember, you may need 50 times or more watching a movie.

This is the best and easiest way to learn listining, vocabulary, idioms, writting and a lot more.

The only thing that this method wouldn't teach you is "speaking" but it helps it a lot.
_________________
Glasgow Hotels - Star - Cambridge - Blackpool
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Dave's ESL Cafe's Student Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Learning English All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Dave's ESL Cafe is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Banner Advertising | Bookstore / Alta Books | FAQs | Articles | Interview with Dave
Copyright © 2018 Dave's ESL Cafe | All Rights Reserved | Contact Dave's ESL Cafe | Site Map

Teachers College, Columbia University: Train to Teach English Here or Abroad
SIT
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group