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hiromichi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: word order Reply with quote

What do you think are the main qualities in Mishima�s novels?

Should the above sentence be rewritten to:
What do you think the main qualities in Mishima's novels are?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either way is good Smile
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hiromichi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redset, Thank you.
So (a) and (b) are both right.
(a) What do you think you are?
(b) What do you think are you?
How about the below?
(c) Where do you think he went?
(d) Where do you think did he go?

(d) is unacceptable,isn't it?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(b) and (d) are unacceptable.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur, Thank you. If so, why is a sentence below(=(b)) acceptable?(according to redset)

What do you think are the main qualities in Mishima�s novels?

It should be:
What do you think the main qualities in Mishima's novels are?
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Anuradha Chepur



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What do you think are the main qualities in Mishima�s novels?

What do you think the main qualities in Mishima's novels are?


They are acceptable to me too.

I'm unable to tell you why What do you think are you? is unacceptable. Let's wait and see if it's acceptable to someone else.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur, I am waiting for your new reply.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur, My analysis is as follows:
(Case !)
1.1 What do you think are the main qualities in Mishima�s novels?
1.2What do you think the main qualities in Mishima's novels are?

In this case "what" or "the main qualities in Mishima's novels" could be a subject. 1.1:what, 1.2:the main qualities in Mishima's novels

(Case 2)
What do you think you are?

In this case only "you" could be a subject;"what" could not be a subject.

Is the above theory of mine right?
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Anuradha Chepur



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Hiromichi, I missed your update on the post.

The underlying sentences for these questions are:

1.1 What do you think are the main qualities in Mishima�s novels?
You think (a,b,c) are the main qualities in Mishima's novels.

1.2 What do you think the main qualities in Mishima's novels are?
You think the main qualities in Mishima's novels are (a,b,c)

(The underlying sentences for both 1.1 and 1.2 are well-formed.)

2.1 What do you think you are?
You think you are (great).

2.2 What do you think are you?
*You think (great) are you.

(The underlying sentence for 2.2 is ill-formed, and that's what makes 2.2 bad.)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur, Great. Thank you very much.
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