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[tbag81]

Hamas has been shooting rockets into Israel, breaking the cease-fire agreement. Israel has retaliated, killing far more Palestinian civilians than Hamas has killed Israeli civilians.

No one is right when innocent people die. Let's just answer the question with our opinions.

Who's right?

[bjonothan]

Muslims are like a cancer on the world that keeps spreading. I hope the Israelis make bitches out of them once again and teaches them a lesson that they won't forget. It is always sad to see kids get in the way and the outlook for the middle east is continuing to worsen due to that horrible cult they call a religion that makes people hell bent on disrupting other peoples lives or worse by killing them.

I am sure that it will continue to be a problem in the future. The problem is that we are faced with two choices. Leave them alone and suffer more attacks as they grow stronger, or bomb them back to the stone age so they can't do anything else. I vote for the second choice personally. I don't want any more people in my country, the US or anywhere in Europe to die because of Muslims.

If you hit hard they are less likely to attack again. You don't win wars by being nice....

[bangbayed]

I guess Christmas really is over for you, eh?

[asylum seeker]

Where's the neither option?

[caniff]

[Summer Wine]

I would have to go with neither as well.

Though I guess its better today than in a few years when the rockets being fired over the border from Gaza contain biological or chemical munitions and the retaliation from Israel leaves the world truly shocked.

If both states cant live in peace then maybe Egypt should take over Gaza and just return it to a pre 1967 position and maybe the West Bank could join with Jordan.

Both areas seem to small to be economically strong and its difficult to see how they could join as one country with a huge slice of Israel separating them. Its possible that the same thing that happened between West Pakistan and East Pakistan will occur and both will become a separate state.

Is difficult to understand why the world seems to believe that Israel must continue to trade with Gaza or have supplies sent through thier borders. It might be better for all if a UN neutal member state took over the access point between Gaza and Egypt and made sure that all products, electricity supply was checked according to the UN standards as well as taking over control of Gaza's airspace and sea lanes until they come to some sort of agreement that will stay at peace.

It seems rather strange to me as a neutral observer that the CNN map shows West Bank as a different color than Israel while marking Gaza with the same color as Israel but just a line demarcating it.

You would think that occupation seems a bit strong a word for a region with its own Government, Police, Army. terrorist allies. There are many other countries that would love that, the Tamil tgers of Sri Lanka are not considered occupied and yet they have less assistance and stability than Gaza.

I guess its easier to focus on Israel vs Gaza then Sri Lanka vs the Tamils. Both have on going wars and violence against them.

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[mises]

[chris_J2]

A third option in the poll is missing. Both are as bad as each other, as several others have already implied.

[Sapa]

I always think Robert Fisk hits the nail on the head.....

[Summer Wine]

[bangbayed]

There is a third party who arguably takes most of the blame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyaBWyNFZfA&playnext=1&playnext_from=QL

[daskalos]

I didn't vote, in part because the poll is flawed, by way of thinking of Palestinians as some united block, and by way of thinking that the Muslim world is united behind Palestinians as a single block. "Moderate" Muslim governments seem to side with Fatah. "Radical" Muslim governments seem to back Hamas. Muslims in the street, regardless of their government's tacit position, seem to be against any Israeli action against any Muslim group. To say nothing of the fact that Israelis themselves, as distinct from their government's actions, are divided over this issue.

The poll poses far too black and white a question.

We could ask, is the Israeli response disproportionate to the provocation? Maybe. (I don't know, but I do know that most Westerners don't realize that far more Palestinians have been killed in this conflict, in the last 50 years, than have Israelis, because the Western press doesn't generally cover dead Palestinians.) We could ask, is Hamas a terrorist organization? Maybe. (I'd say yes.) We could ask, is it ethical or moral for Israel to kill civilians, even though Hamas places its missile batteries in the midst of civilian populations? (Maybe, I'd say yes.) We could ask, is it ethical for Hamas to place its missile batteries in civilian populations, even though Gaza is nothing but a civilian population? (I'd say no, but then I don't live their desperate lives.)

This poll is idiotically Manichean. Not every question has a clearly defined white or black hat. More options, please.

[John_ESL_White]

The Israel/ Palestine conflist reminds me of children fighting.

It's too bad the UN is too weak to smack the hell out of both of them, sit them in the corner for awhile and shame them.

No one is right.

The Lebanese and Palestine arabs are foo fundamentalist to think clearly about anything...

The Israeli jews are just as fanatical and blinded by god knows what...

Their policy of 'kill one Israeli and we kill one hundred Palestinians is Hitleresque.

Granted, the palestinaian and Lebonese policy of shooting rockets indescriminately at Israel because israelis are not worthy of living in the arabs' sandbox is just as hitleresque (though, with a retarded fundamentalist religious twist that no one in their right mind could ever understand).

Both sides are babies. Both need a smack. Come on UN. Come on European Union Armed Forces (lol).

In reality, I don't give a smack. Let them kill each other. Neither side are my brothers.

[Sapa]

edit - wrong topic

[Ilsanman]

When you take away someone's country and shove their people into a piece of land the size of Tokyo, what do you expect?

Oh yeah, have total control pf their water, food, coastlines, etc. You have people living in prison, basically.