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book about hangeul pronunciation? inc. anglicized words
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pianowill



Joined: 11 May 2009
Location: Bundang
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:38 am    Post subject: book about hangeul pronunciation? inc. anglicized words Reply with quote
I'm getting Hangeul down pretty quickly, but my pronunciation is terrible. Is there a good book I can buy here (close to Seoul) that teaches how to pronounce Hangeul? That would be great it if it had the Hangeul word followed by the anglicized version of that word followed by how to pronounce it.

I know, I know...a book for pronunciation? I'll be using the internet and co-workers for help as well. I just want something to study on the go.

Ex. 한글 = hangeul = HON (like han solo) and GHOUL (or like replacing the 'c' in 'cool' with a 'g')

The book I currently have tells me to pronounce the 'ae' symbol like the 'a' in 'hat', and in my experience so far, that's flat out wrong. More like the 'a' in 'hate.'
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mimis



Joined: 24 May 2009
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I haven't actually used it, but I came across this one on Amazon a while ago, it looks pretty comprehensive. http://www.amazon.com/Sounds-Korean-Pronunciation-Miho-Choo/dp/0824826019/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253524415&sr=8-4

I'd be interested in buying it myself if it weren't so expensive Sad
($21.60 at Amazon, ₩43,600 at Whatthebook)
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pianowill



Joined: 11 May 2009
Location: Bundang
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks good to me! I'll probably end up buying a few books anyway. Does Amazon ship here? If not, is there an Amazon-like Korean website where I can search for this book?
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mimis



Joined: 24 May 2009
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, Amazon ships here, but you have to pay extra for delivery...honestly I'm not sure how it all works though, I can't order from Amazon, so I've never done it. Here's the international delivery section: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_navbox_596184_tips?nodeId=596188

Also, there's www.whatthebook.com but like I said, they charge a lot more. Kyobo charges W33,380 (http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/search/SearchEngbookMain.jsp)

Don't know about other websites, I think ordering from Amazon might be your best bet (depending on how many books you're going to order).
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ex. 한글 = hangeul = HON (like han solo) and GHOUL (or like replacing the 'c' in 'cool' with a 'g')

It doesn't sound like that at all.
romanization is a crutch, its rarely accurate because of our existing knowledge about how certain letter combinations work in english. A certain letter for one vowel might be fine in one word, in another word it might be pronounced differently.
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krd



Joined: 17 Sep 2009
Location: Daegu
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A big problem with such books is that it comes over differently for different people. ie British English and American English. People read how a word is supposed to sound and hear it in their own accent... That can differ widely, and consequently people pronounce words totally wrong.

Example - Americans and non-Americans speaking Korean will pronounce 'han' totally different. It's because the ㅏ sound is translated as 'a' and people pronounce that differently in English.
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Bread



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://hompi.sogang.ac.kr/korean/kkl100/contents.html

Only works in Internet Explorer (like every Korean website). Has little sound clips of each one. And yeah, that HAN GHOUL was totally wrong. You should never rely on approximates for romanization. Once you learn how it really sounds, you can use romanization as long as you remember what sound each letter represents.
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
crossmr wrote:
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Ex. 한글 = hangeul = HON (like han solo) and GHOUL (or like replacing the 'c' in 'cool' with a 'g')

It doesn't sound like that at all.
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lichtarbeiter



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Location: Korea
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: book about hangeul pronunciation? inc. anglicized words Reply with quote
pianowill wrote:
The book I currently have tells me to pronounce the 'ae' symbol like the 'a' in 'hat', and in my experience so far, that's flat out wrong. More like the 'a' in 'hate.'


Your book is most likely using the International Phonetic Alphabet. Learn IPA, and you're all set. I'm guessing your book shows that [ae] sound with the two characters fused together, which is in fact that same sound as in the pronunciation of "hat" in AmE.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
No book is gonna tell you how to pronounce it properly. I have friends who think they speak really good Korean but butcher it on a regular basis. You need to ask Koreans and be around them.
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pianowill



Joined: 11 May 2009
Location: Bundang
PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Murakano wrote:
crossmr wrote:
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Ex. 한글 = hangeul = HON (like han solo) and GHOUL (or like replacing the 'c' in 'cool' with a 'g')

It doesn't sound like that at all.
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this Laughing