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Anybody Here work for Wall Street English or Pagoda?

 
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sluggo832004



Joined: 04 Sep 2010
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:58 am    Post subject: Anybody Here work for Wall Street English or Pagoda? Reply with quote
I saw they were hiring and I was looking for adult teaching experience.

Anybody got any experience with them.

I got an offer from a international school, but I like the idea of teaching adults. Very Happy
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itiswhatitis



Joined: 08 Aug 2011
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Go for the international school.

This is a no brainer!!!!

It sounds like you're an education major.

At the international school you are a teacher, at the hagwon (both "schools" you mentioned are hagwons) you are a white monkey.

Best of luck.
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sluggo832004



Joined: 04 Sep 2010
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks. But I really need experience teaching adults though.


But Hagwons are pretty tough from what I hear though.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sluggo832004 wrote:
Thanks. But I really need experience teaching adults though.


But hagwons are pretty tough from what I hear though.


Go for the International school! Yes it would be nice to teach adults. But in most cases with adults and hagwon is split shifts. Unless you can put up with split shifts for a year avoid!

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=210459
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=202602
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=193304
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Canadian Club



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It depends which international school gave you the offer.
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Canadian Club wrote:
It depends which international school gave you the offer.


This exactly. Some international schools in Korea offer low pay, and poor working conditions. Others offer high pay and great conditions. You need to evaluate your offer.

Wall Street English does not have split shifts and you would be teaching adults, competition is usally stiff, so you would need to apply from their website www.wsikorea.com

You should get more holidays at an international school. If they mention deskwarming, sitting at a desk over the vacations run, fast.
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Waygeek



Joined: 27 Feb 2013
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
itiswhatitis wrote:
Go for the international school.

This is a no brainer!!!!

It sounds like you're an education major.

At the international school you are a teacher, at the hagwon (both "schools" you mentioned are hagwons) you are a white monkey.

Best of luck.


Excuse me, but at my hagwon I am a teacher; I have my own classroom (computer and projector included), and curriculum (books/storybooks that the kids only do with me). So maybe, lets have less of your generalizations.

Unless... that's what you meant by being a 'white monkey'. I'm a little confused as to that reference.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Before running to the International school verify that in fact it actually a real international school! Lots of schools use international in their name when in fact they are not true accredited International Schools.

One of the key clues would be their hiring requirements AND whom they are accredited with. That can usually be found on their website.

The staff section can show you the type of teachers they hired too.

Note that in a real International School, you will work a lot harder than in a K Public School or Hakwon. In such a school you teach an actual subject, follow strict curriculum, have tons of grading (the usual bane of a true teacher), will be required to participate in extra-curricular activities (study club, sports...). There is not much "desk warming" at an International School, you typically have duties that keep you busy. You will also deal with parents, have to attend staff meetings.

Conversely, the experience you gain will be quite valuable and the pay is usually higher.

Pm me if you have questions.
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sluggo832004



Joined: 04 Sep 2010
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah its accredited. Because I would get a E-7 visa instead of an E-2.

They run off American schedule. Summers and christmas off.

The pay is around 2.7 in Us dollars.


The thing is my main goal is to teach university, and I think teaching adults should at least get me some experience on my resume since I dont have a masters.

Im just hope that Wallstreet isnt just another crappy hagwon and I end up regretting not taking the international job. Shocked
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sluggo832004 wrote:
Yeah its accredited. Because I would get a E-7 visa instead of an E-2.

They run off American schedule. Summers and christmas off.

The pay is around 2.7 in Us dollars.


The thing is my main goal is to teach university, and I think teaching adults should at least get me some experience on my resume since I dont have a masters.

Im just hope that Wallstreet isnt just another crappy hagwon and I end up regretting not taking the international job. Shocked


Ok good.

The experience you gain at that school will likely be worth more than the one you would gain at a Hakwon.

The University I worked for in Busan (and many others) will consider hakwon experience either as 50% value (so 2 years = 1) or not very much at all. Also, unless the experience is referenced, it will not have much value.

If your goal is to teach University, then I would personally grab the International School job. Note that without a Masters, your odds of landing a University job are very long in this competitive market. All too often if you apply and have no MA your file is rejected outright due the very high volume of applicants.
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sluggo832004



Joined: 04 Sep 2010
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
sluggo832004 wrote:
Yeah its accredited. Because I would get a E-7 visa instead of an E-2.

They run off American schedule. Summers and christmas off.

The pay is around 2.7 in Us dollars.


The thing is my main goal is to teach university, and I think teaching adults should at least get me some experience on my resume since I dont have a masters.

Im just hope that Wallstreet isnt just another crappy hagwon and I end up regretting not taking the in